Gates v. Musk - Competing World Views
Gates v. Musk - Competing World Views
Population Decrease v. Population Increase and Visions of Our Future
Both Bill Gates and Elon Musk are very open about their beliefs on world population, and the two visions are in stark contrast.
Gates believes we have too many people on the planet, and that we must reduce the overall population to conserve vital resources and avoid climate crisis disasters.
Musk believes we have too few people on the planet, and that most nations need to work to increase their birth rates so at minimum we can maintain the current population levels.
Why do these two billionaires see this critical issue so differently?
Shorter lives, climate crisis, declining resources
Bill Gates sees a future where more and more people are competing for less and less resources. He believes we need to reduce population and conserve resources, including reducing the consumption of animal products especially meat. It is noteworthy that Gates wants all of these conservation efforts to happen at the expense of the middle and working class, not the super-rich.
Gates is promoting a world of more and more vaccines / injections that are mandated in order to access society. According to many doctors and scientists such as Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Brian Hooker, Dr. Mary Talley Bowden, Dr. Robert Malone, Dr. Pierre Kory, and more, many of these injections can actually cause illnesses and deaths.
This is interesting because it seems as if injections causing death and reducing lifespan is in line with Gates agenda to reduce population. When asked about this, Gates is clear that this is not what he is involved in, and he publicly states that he supports injections because they help make people healthier.
This does raise the question of whether Gates is publicly lying about the true intentions behind mass injections.
Mars, military readiness, cyborgs
For Musk, the future of humanity involves deep space exploration to colonize Mars and humans combining with artificial intelligence to become cyborgs.
Currently 70% of young men cannot be recruited to the military due to health issues, especially obesity. This is not a ‘healthy’ population that Musk’s view of the future can be built upon. To explore deep space we will need men (and women) who can withstand extreme physical and psychological challenges; i.e. we will need healthy men and women that are military ready.
Exploring space is a military expedition. Donald Trump lightly referenced this recently when he went on the Joe Rogan show, reminding everyone as President he created the new branch of the military known as Space Force.
In addition to space exploration, if you want to create human cyborgs certainly a healthier human being is more likely to survive the implantation of something like a Neuralink chip in the brain than an unhealthy one. The early trials conducted with primates getting Neuralink implants resulted in the majority of those animals dying. In Elon Musk’s vision of the future, we will need healthy and strong humans to withstand the “cyborg-ing” that he sees as inevitable.
Enter RFK Jr.
It is fascinating that Gates is a huge promoter of forced vaccination while Elon Musk is now clearly aligned with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s Make American Healthy Again (MAHA) movement and vaccine skepticism. Musk does not agree with everything that Kennedy has put forth on vaccines, but there is a clear alliance as both men are backing Donald Trump for President. On the other hand, we have Gates who has just given $50 million dollars to Kamala Harris, reported to be his first ever political donation.
So it’s Musk v. Gates in the 2024 presidential election, too.
Whoever wins this election may very well predict the next 20 years of what unfolds in public health, as these are clearly two completely different visions of the world ahead of us. In Musk’s world view, we will need healthy humans as the foundation of a space-faring cyborg-evolving civilization. I argue that can only begin by stopping mass injections and ingestion of poisons; or at least reducing these injections and ingestions. If Musk’s future-vision of the world has any chance at becoming reality, an ever-expanding cocktail of injections would have to stop, or at least slow down, while the chemicals and poisons in the food supply would have to be drastically reduced.
Gates’ view is the exact opposite.
To me, this is a huge discussion, which I know I won't do justice in this comment, but here's what I'm thinking. Apologies in advance for the long reply.
I think you're striking at the root of a crucially important idea.
Personally, I'd want to set Gates & Musk aside to flesh out this idea better. While their stated motivations are diametrically opposed, I'm not convinced that their methods will differ much in the long run.
What nobody in power wants is an engaged self-governing citizenry. This includes both Gates & Musk. Musk seems to me like a transhumanist eugenicist wearing a paper-thin "pro-humanity" persona designed for a particular culture war participant. Instead of merely culling humanity, he would prefer people become cogs in his "Human Colossus" (https://waitbutwhy.com/2017/04/neuralink.html#part1)
As somebody watching his platform X from a distance, I feel I know everything I need to know about his plans to "uplift" humanity.
Alright. Musk Bad, but that's not really a salient point or even the point of your piece here. There are two major questions to address:
1) To what degree MAHA is being permitted to be part of the discussion for military purposes?
2) What does Musk offer this coalition?
To zoom out a bit, in hindsight, what did Covid-19 accomplish? As a whole, I would say it reasonably effectively normalized injection mandates, expansive public health powers, and totalitarian suppression of dissent. I don't think I'm alone in that assessment, but many people underestimate the lasting effects.
Back in 2022 Denis Rancourt did an excellent interview on Geopolitics & Empire discussing the concept of the Covid Crisis being leveraged as a way to "totalitarianify" society. Speaking as a Canadian, I think it has been wildly successful at this, despite push back on particular points.
"So you never have democracy during war time and you always have this absolute totalitarian system, and that's what they're installing. And that's what they're putting into place in making sure that real democratic governance never returns, not for the near future anyway."
Denis Rancourt on "COVID19 is a War Measure for Population Control in Shadow of US-China Conflict" (https://denisrancourt.ca/entries.php?id=108)
So if war (on Earth, or conquest in space) is coming, presumably soldiers (or just bodies) are needed at some point or another. I didn't consider cyborgs when I started thinking about this, but I think you're absolutely on to something here. Why can't "enhancements" be "medical countermeasures"? Regardless, if the war machine needs meat for testing or the grinder, why does the health of the citizenry *really* matter? We've seen increasing amounts of immigration deployed for other issues, why would this be any different?
Technocrats like Gates & Musk are BOTH struggling with the dilemma that it's very difficult to maintain control over a fractured, alienated, population. To have all the fancy things technocrats desire, they need at least the pretense of a human society to sustain it. People can directly feel and understand when they're under attack, but it's much harder for them to realize when they've sold themselves out.
This is why I believe Elon Musk is all about neutralizing resistance. Moving forward, I'm convinced that only the most obvious and severe assaults on the public will be given attention. As you've touched on many of the health reforms being discussed are directly tied to military requirements. This alone is troubling because it means that we can expect the bulk of the "help" and intrusions to be aimed at children and young adults.
It's the urgency that's most worrying. Trying to turn around the "health" of a populace in 30-50 years is a very different predicament than attempting to do so in under 10-20 years. Clearly the desires and long-term well being of the individual will be some of the first corners cut. During this time, we can expect an immense amount of propaganda aimed at bringing people's guard down while even more nefarious measures roll in.
To not leave this on a completely bleak note, I feel the need to share what the actual way out of this is. I was blown away at Julie Ponesse's testimony at this year's National Citizen's inquiry. Dr Ponesse perfectly explains what the big picture threats are and what we can do as individuals to address the actual root causes.
https://rumble.com/v5izvud-nci-vancouver-2024-hearings-day-1-october-17-2024.html?start=13775